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major 3D aerobatic manoeuvres
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In this video Michael Wargo introduces the major 3D aerobatic manoeuvres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f-NFMy_UqE

The details of the manoeuvres are only briefly explained by Wargo, but the list and selections are good. A quick google search on each of these names provides several videos that illustrate/demonstrate each manoeuvre in more detail. For example, for knife edge spin, I like 2 of many google search suggestions :

https://www.modelairplanenews.com/5-easy...ge-spin-2/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifbNaHtZ5bw


Harrier
Knife Edge
Rolling Harrier
Hover
Hover with Torque roll
Snap Flip
Inverted flip
Pop top crankshaft
Waterfall
Knife edge spin
Flat spin
4 point roll
Blender
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#2

Here are notes with details of technique for some of the above manoeuvres.

KNIFE EDGE SPIN

from Model Aircraft News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUNuJjUaWpk
"Fly into the wind, pull the throttle back to about 50-percent power and apply down-elevator and left aileron and rudder. The model will tumble but will soon enter a knife-edge spin, or a tumbling spin.
You need to hold the same inputs throughout the maneuver, but some models may react differently. If you have too much down-elevator deflection, your model may enter an upright flat spin. If you find that this is the case, you must decrease the endpoint values of your control surfaces. Start by decreasing elevator deflection, and if the model still does not want to do a knife-edge spin, slightly decrease aileron deflection, too.

from wildwings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifbNaHtZ5bw
to start, enter vertical dive and start left aileron spin, then slowly add left rudder AND full down elevator. Once off-axis spin starts SLOWLY release left ail, leaving in place full L rud and full down ele.

I was very pleased to see the KE spin work today in a session at the field, although only in about 1/3 of my attempts. Its easier on some models than others.

FLAT SPIN

inverted flat spin with M. Wargo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2WNabLIf9E

wildwings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1HTzT7lc9E
for upright flat spin, reduce power, fly into wind keeping plane level, just before stall apply full rudder.

I find the upright spin hard to achieve; however in the course of a blender when preparing to exit the manoeuvre I get a good inverted flat spin most times.

POP TOP
This is the best demonstration and description I have found. A pop top is the same as a blender, except the blender starts with a vertical dive, while the pop top starts with a fast vertical climb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ5QLCnOB-I&t=369s

CRANKSHAFT (also known as a LOMCEVAK)

It is described as a knife edge spin, except the wing is horizontal. That is, while in a KE spin the wing is vertical as the tail rotates around it, in a crankshaft the wing is horizontal as the tail rotates around it. Start in knife-edge flight, then climb at 45 degrees and enter a series of tumbles, then regain control and fly away.

wildwings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93J_F2DHZh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6EoU0zLeRA

step 1:
first get into knife edge with left aileron; use left aileron with right rudder to enter the forty five degree climb; increase the power to keep it steady in that 45 degree angle
step 2:
when you're ready for the tumble you want full R rudder; cut power, and you want full R aileron and you want full down elevator; hold those sticks in the corners to perform this tumble
When you're ready to finish, let go of both sticks bring them to the center, regain control and then fly away

WATERFALL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWpS1kzYD-g
plane chases its tail, reduce power when diving, increase on climbing.


BLENDER
wildwings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T798zEZCSxA

vertical climb on full power
cut power, and enter vertical dive
full R aileron to commence vertical spin
after 1-2 sec, apply full L rudder to achieve a wobbly spin
wait 1-4 sec to apply sufficient down ele to create a flat spin
when its time to exit, zero aileron, zero rudder, use down ele to maintain inverted level flight


RIFLE ROLLS AND ROLLING HARRIERS

These 2 excellent vids by Juan Sanchez cover basic rolls, 4 point rolls and describe the basic skills required to progress to rifle rolls and rolling harriers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5kjqitDMFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVqP7NUrdrI
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Hi Greg,

Thanks for making this post, some great info and links. From Wildwings I can see my mistake with the knife edge spin, not slowly taking off the aileron.

For some inspiration, here is a link to one of the worlds best 3D pilots Jase Dussia (a fellow thumber!) giving a gnarly 3D demo with a camera view of his stick inputs. He pulls off some awesome maneuvers including most of the above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duGLJ3LRaBU

Florian.
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(30-11-2023, 02:37 PM)Florian Wrote:  Hi Greg,

Thanks for making this post, some great info and links. From Wildwings I can see my mistake with the knife edge spin, not slowly taking off the aileron.

For some inspiration, here is a link to one of the worlds best 3D pilots Jase Dussia (a fellow thumber!) giving a gnarly 3D demo with a camera view of his stick inputs. He pulls off some awesome maneuvers including most of the above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duGLJ3LRaBU

Florian.

progress on knife edge spin:

Following practice, with my slick (0.9m span), I found I can get a good KE spin almost every attempt, with the edge (1m span) about 70% of attempts, with CY 1.1m about 50%.

My KE spin technique has evolved:

vertical climb to great height; cut throttle; when vertical dive has commenced simultaneously apply half throttle, full L ail, full L rud, and  full down ele; then slowly ease the ail to a small amount of L ail. If KE spin not achieved, I try toggle the throttle up and down a bit, and adjust the amount of L ail, sometimes these measures work. If no success within 5 seconds of effort, I suggest abandon the attempt, exit any spin (there likely will be a flat spin or a tumble) and regain height for a new attempt.
With a 3d plane simply centering rudder and aileron is sufficient to exit a spin.
 
The CY gave the best KE spin, wings vertical and fuse horizontal as spins on vertical axis through CG. I find I can get around 5 KE spin attempts per flight battery.
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